Rant: when they shouldn't have bothered

[Fatal Rewind]

This is in regards to various entertainment stuff that was a hit, it went away, came back (yay!) but then became mediocre. Again, they shouldn't have bothered.

I'd only seen one episode and a clip of another one of the adult cgi show Tripping the Rift, spoofing sci-fi. I'm not much into juvenile sex jokes and all so I wouldn't call it "brilliant" like some others have. So it was no skin off my nose to see when it came back after originally ending and reviews said they lost their way and those new episodes were low-rated.

I feel sorry for Futurama fans when the show finally came back after 10 years recently but the ratings on the imdb have only been like a 7.1 out of 10 and the other episodes less than 7. Usually if something's less than 7 for me it isn't worth the waste of time. Those aren't high ratings.

Bands are the same, like when Aerosmith came back in the 80s but unfortunately they did stuff like "Dude Looks Like a Lady" and "Love in an Elevator". Even though they had done ballads in the past and the like (the very classic "Dream On") and the later stuff was catchy what happened to their hard rock edge? They replaced it with the Fairlight for the bass and some drum programming rather than all acoustic drums.  The Eagles were the same way with whatever album "Problem Child" was on, having a sense of humor but it sounded more contemporary, rather than their timeless stuff of the past.  At least with Starz, one of the earlier hard rock/metal bands (nothing to do with the later Starz cable network of the same name) had the right idea, coming up with four major studio albums from 1976-1980, breaking up, then coming back together but only releasing Requiem in 1992 (amidst a ton of live, acoustic and other cds).  When someone asked one of the guitarists Ritchie Ranno if there would ever be another Starz album he said no, he didn't want something with the Starz name on it if it didn't sound like them (which, again, can happen to a lot of bands).

Occasionally SOMETHING will work though. I heard when they brought back Beavis and Butthead years ago it was the same ridiculous nonsense. With Roseanne it was only like they left for a while/aged a bit and that was it (too bad Roseanne Barr in real life shot off her mouth and got herself fired from the show).

[PunkChic4life22]

I wish more comebacks, reboots, and sequels were good, and it sucks when they aren't.

[Sandra]

That's unfortunate, but you gave me some things to NOT check out.

[maplesyrup]

Interesting that you say that about imdb. I always thought everything was rated way too low on that site. I never find anything over a 6.

[Holden]

Hollywood needs to stop remaking movies and sitcoms. They often insult the original.

[Pedro]

Also when bad translation and it's not what they really said.

[Ignored]

What's the worst upcoming thing to avoid?

[I dot my I]

IMO, bands don't always do the best with new members and a new genre eeek

[Ignored]

^I think a lot of people turned on Linkin Park.

[BlondeHanson]

I regret almost every remake I ever checkout!

[Hulk]

I've been angry lately about some sad Hulk redos.... not the original artist or story.

[zachansonlover]

Making notes of what NOT to check out!! GOT IT.

[Fatal Rewind]

Aug 17, 2023 5:00:36 GMT -5 I dot my I said:

IMO, bands don't always do the best with new members and a new genre eeek

Heh, exactly. I remember when Vince Neil did a solo album which, even though he snagged Stephen Stevens on guitar (from Billy Idol), it was still "warmed over Motley Crue" as a friend of mine said. For some reason when opera singer Messiah Marcolin left a band they'd get less doomy (kind of strange since he didn't play any other instruments!), like when he left Candlemass and Momento Mori.

But THE biggest mistake in metal change was in regards to Celtic Frost. They were one of the earlier death/thrash metal bands, using the evil dropped E tuning, growled vocals and heavy bass on their debut. The second album was pretty much the same but without as heavy bass. For their third album they became an avante garde/experimental band, without as much heaviness and vocalist/guitarist Tom Warrior changed his vocal style from the growls to an "argh, I'm dying and being all emo about it" whine throughout most of the album (except for the metal opening cover of “Mexican Radio” and part of another song on there) although it was still good.

Then they released Cold Lake, becoming a glam/hair metal band. I can still remember the reviews of it, saying in regards to being compared with their massive debut, "Whatever happened to songs like 'Into the Crypt of Rays' and 'Procreation (Of the Wicked)'? Tom the traitor" blah blah. I had a friend of a friend that had a C. Frost patch on his bluejean jacket that he took a lighter and burned it off after that album was released. That was a bit extreme. Over 20 years later bands still talked about it, like when I saw an interview with some death metal band member and he said "We'll never sell out, no Cold Lake from us".  They came out with Vanity/Nemesis later, returning to their thrash roots but the sound was a bit sterile, no having bizarre song intros where it sounded like they were caught off guard like on their debut, along with other unbalanced trademarks such as mispronouncing “Dethroned Emperor” on the same album (although with Tom being Swedish I’m guessing English wasn't his first language). It finally took their last album of Monotheist before they went back to their death metal roots and all was (mostly) forgiven.



From their grand debut of Morbid Tales. Note the low tuning and devastating bass



Pretty much the same on their second album but without as heavy bass (a different bass player, producer and studio might've been the culprits)



Their first big change on their third album. Note the unusual, rather than death metal guitar passage at about the :21 mark. Also note the severe change in Tom's vocal delivery



Oooooh boy! Gone are the low-tuned guitars. Gone are the guttural vocals. And wtf does Marilyn Monroe have to do with their early, dark subject material? Gone too



Finally, back on track! Only took them 21 years to do it! (Although it took two minutes before it went into death metal)

[Tea-Rex]

Don't kill me for rocking out.