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Post by A Dream Is A Wish (Old) on Nov 4, 2014 17:11:38 GMT -5
I agree with what you are saying Tim05 in the sense that everyone needs to be a well-rounded person. You can't just sit around talking about the same thing all day long or complaining about the same thing or people will get tired of you. If you're just known as the "feminist" and have no other identity at all and can never take a joke or post something funny, then people aren't going to enjoy being around you because they like talking about different things sometimes and not beat over the head with something.
But I disagree about the changing their minds thing. I was raised by hardcore Christians and I was SO homophobic when I was younger. This lasted until I was an adult, too. But people kept confronting me about it and I kept making friends with homosexuals and eventually I said,"I can't have this stupid opinion anymore."
But it happened slowly, over the course of a few years (between the ages of 22-24 years old) and the people who argued with me will never know that they were instrumental in changing my mind.
There's a lot of arguments I've had with people in the past where I agree with them now and think I was confused back then. I appreciate that they argued with me and sometimes think about it and wish I could apologize to them.
But I almost never in the middle of the argument admit to someone that they are making me doubt things that I am saying.
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Post by ash on Nov 4, 2014 17:11:38 GMT -5
I'm not at a rolling boil. I just asked for clarification, which really wasnt provided. I'll rephrase. What views do hardcore feminists hold? My OP was mainly about people that find fault in EVERYTHING. I think it's why I tend not to agree with anyone that is so over-the-top about any issue. Posting 7 times a day on Facebook and being outraged over something does nothing except make people ignore your posts whenever they see your name. Maybe this girl has one or two gems that actually are valid points, and would be read by more people if she didn't post 1,000 times a day and get the same back and forth with the same people. It's like the person at work that complains about every single thing. You can't tell when something is actually wrong. If someone who I know doesn't speak up every 5 minutes, I listen to their thoughts a lot more closely when they do eventually speak up. I suppose I just don't have a bunch of passion about anything really. What is the person that posts that much constantly about problems with how women are treated attempting to accomplish? What are her goals? If it is to change people's views and educate them, I think she is doing a very poor job of it due to the reason I mentioned above. The people commiting the crimes against women aren't likely to be reading these Facebook posts, and if they are, I really don't think some videos and rants are going to change who they are. The problem lies in parenting... Once someone is an adult, they aren't going to change. So your point was more like, Why are some people constantly angry? |
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Post by mynameisfred on Nov 7, 2014 19:42:33 GMT -5
I am a bisexual female and I hate feminists. That statement may sound a tad bit weird, but it's the absolute truth. At the same time, I respect people as a whole. Shouldn't we all? But I am sorry, the way in which women are treated can in no way be compared to how African Americans were treated years before today.
My husband has said on numerous occasions that women are inherently physically weaker than men, yet he was the one who first started teaching me how to lift and he loves women. It's just the truth. (On a side note: we looked up human flag pole and could find almost no women doing it- and none doing it well.) We have a bit of in interesting life, as we have been through some really rough sh*t and are still fighting to make it as a couple. At the moment we have a one sided open relationship- meaning he can have sex with other women. Does he often? Hell no. Why? Because he isn't willing to lie to or deceive anyone in order to get sex. Him and I have a friend that has joined us in the bedroom several times. The reason it continues is because we respect her, she respects us, and no one is ever lied to or used. (If this is against TOS I apologize and feel free to edit.)
So I love women but I said I hate feminists. How does that work?
First off, before my post potentially starts a sh*t storm, I have a large deal of respect for ADIAW, but I honestly wouldn't call you a "feminist." I see you as a very strong, very moral, independent woman. But I think it's more than you have strong moral and respect for ALL people. (I really hope that doesn't offend you. I don't mean to tell you what or who you are, more of how I feel towards you.)
The feminists I hate are the women who I personally would call man-haters. It isn't so much that they want equal treatment, but they want more. They want attention and they want to conquer. Women like this hate any man or women who opposes their cause. Basically the self-righteous woman. Those women irritate the hell out of me. No your not stronger than men. Yes you have the ability to be smarter...but you're also a ****ing b*tch, in most cases.
Again, I have zero intention or desire to offend anyone. Just my two cents.
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Post by Tim05 on Nov 8, 2014 0:25:21 GMT -5
I am a bisexual female and I hate feminists. That statement may sound a tad bit weird, but it's the absolute truth. At the same time, I respect people as a whole. Shouldn't we all? But I am sorry, the way in which women are treated can in no way be compared to how African Americans were treated years before today. My husband has said on numerous occasions that women are inherently physically weaker than men, yet he was the one who first started teaching me how to lift and he loves women. It's just the truth. (On a side note: we looked up human flag pole and could find almost no women doing it- and none doing it well.) We have a bit of in interesting life, as we have been through some really rough sh*t and are still fighting to make it as a couple. At the moment we have a one sided open relationship- meaning he can have sex with other women. Does he often? Hell no. Why? Because he isn't willing to lie to or deceive anyone in order to get sex. Him and I have a friend that has joined us in the bedroom several times. The reason it continues is because we respect her, she respects us, and no one is ever lied to or used. (If this is against TOS I apologize and feel free to edit.) So I love women but I said I hate feminists. How does that work? First off, before my post potentially starts a sh*t storm, I have a large deal of respect for ADIAW, but I honestly wouldn't call you a "feminist." I see you as a very strong, very moral, independent woman. But I think it's more than you have strong moral and respect for ALL people. (I really hope that doesn't offend you. I don't mean to tell you what or who you are, more of how I feel towards you.) The feminists I hate are the women who I personally would call man-haters. It isn't so much that they want equal treatment, but they want more. They want attention and they want to conquer. Women like this hate any man or women who opposes their cause. Basically the self-righteous woman. Those women irritate the hell out of me. No your not stronger than men. Yes you have the ability to be smarter...but you're also a ******* b*tch, in most cases. Again, I have zero intention or desire to offend anyone. Just my two cents. I think I see the world the same as you in many ways. Not that I'm a bisexual female, but if people just had respect for one another the world would be a lot better. Don't get bent out of shape if someone makes a rude comment to you and make it into a national epidemic. I've seen a million of the catcalling videos recently. My Facebook is overloaded with them on both sides of the issue. Know what? I'm sorry but get some thicker skin. If it is stalking or whatever, obviously it's wrong, but someone shouting "hey beautiful" to you on the street? Find something else to dedicate your life to fighting against. The same people you are condemning in those videos likely harass everyone that walks by. I've been harassed as a male walking down the street, been called rude names and whatnot. Why? Because some people are just assholes. I move on with my day when it happens. |
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Post by darckonquest on Nov 8, 2014 0:40:34 GMT -5
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Post by Ryanizme on Nov 8, 2014 0:56:08 GMT -5
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Post by ash on Nov 8, 2014 1:03:15 GMT -5
I am a bisexual female and I hate feminists. That statement may sound a tad bit weird, but it's the absolute truth. At the same time, I respect people as a whole. Shouldn't we all? But I am sorry, the way in which women are treated can in no way be compared to how African Americans were treated years before today. My husband has said on numerous occasions that women are inherently physically weaker than men, yet he was the one who first started teaching me how to lift and he loves women. It's just the truth. (On a side note: we looked up human flag pole and could find almost no women doing it- and none doing it well.) We have a bit of in interesting life, as we have been through some really rough sh*t and are still fighting to make it as a couple. At the moment we have a one sided open relationship- meaning he can have sex with other women. Does he often? Hell no. Why? Because he isn't willing to lie to or deceive anyone in order to get sex. Him and I have a friend that has joined us in the bedroom several times. The reason it continues is because we respect her, she respects us, and no one is ever lied to or used. (If this is against TOS I apologize and feel free to edit.) So I love women but I said I hate feminists. How does that work? First off, before my post potentially starts a sh*t storm, I have a large deal of respect for ADIAW, but I honestly wouldn't call you a "feminist." I see you as a very strong, very moral, independent woman. But I think it's more than you have strong moral and respect for ALL people. (I really hope that doesn't offend you. I don't mean to tell you what or who you are, more of how I feel towards you.) The feminists I hate are the women who I personally would call man-haters. It isn't so much that they want equal treatment, but they want more. They want attention and they want to conquer. Women like this hate any man or women who opposes their cause. Basically the self-righteous woman. Those women irritate the hell out of me. No your not stronger than men. Yes you have the ability to be smarter...but you're also a ******* b*tch, in most cases. Again, I have zero intention or desire to offend anyone. Just my two cents. Why is the open relationship one sided? |
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Post by mynameisfred on Nov 8, 2014 2:19:05 GMT -5
I am a bisexual female and I hate feminists. That statement may sound a tad bit weird, but it's the absolute truth. At the same time, I respect people as a whole. Shouldn't we all? But I am sorry, the way in which women are treated can in no way be compared to how African Americans were treated years before today. My husband has said on numerous occasions that women are inherently physically weaker than men, yet he was the one who first started teaching me how to lift and he loves women. It's just the truth. (On a side note: we looked up human flag pole and could find almost no women doing it- and none doing it well.) We have a bit of in interesting life, as we have been through some really rough sh*t and are still fighting to make it as a couple. At the moment we have a one sided open relationship- meaning he can have sex with other women. Does he often? Hell no. Why? Because he isn't willing to lie to or deceive anyone in order to get sex. Him and I have a friend that has joined us in the bedroom several times. The reason it continues is because we respect her, she respects us, and no one is ever lied to or used. (If this is against TOS I apologize and feel free to edit.) So I love women but I said I hate feminists. How does that work? First off, before my post potentially starts a sh*t storm, I have a large deal of respect for ADIAW, but I honestly wouldn't call you a "feminist." I see you as a very strong, very moral, independent woman. But I think it's more than you have strong moral and respect for ALL people. (I really hope that doesn't offend you. I don't mean to tell you what or who you are, more of how I feel towards you.) The feminists I hate are the women who I personally would call man-haters. It isn't so much that they want equal treatment, but they want more. They want attention and they want to conquer. Women like this hate any man or women who opposes their cause. Basically the self-righteous woman. Those women irritate the hell out of me. No your not stronger than men. Yes you have the ability to be smarter...but you're also a ******* b*tch, in most cases. Again, I have zero intention or desire to offend anyone. Just my two cents. Why is the open relationship one sided? I have zero interest in sleeping with other men. Nor would my husband ever be willing to share me. Sent from my SPH-L300 using proboards |
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Post by Kis on Nov 8, 2014 2:34:07 GMT -5
Ber,
So he's not willing to share you...
but wants you to share him? lol
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Post by ash on Nov 8, 2014 2:38:17 GMT -5
Why is the open relationship one sided? I have zero interest in sleeping with other men. Nor would my husband ever be willing to share me. Sent from my SPH-L300 using proboards thats interestung. |
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Post by A Dream Is A Wish (Old) on Nov 8, 2014 9:08:00 GMT -5
A lot of those aren't feminists to me, but horrible sadists. Like enjoying men getting physically hurt? *shudders* The only thing I have to say with some of those is that I hate when people say that women aren't allowed to object to male attention if they are wearing clothing that men might find attractive. Because are there really any clothes that no men find attractive? |
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Post by mynameisfred on Nov 8, 2014 11:37:37 GMT -5
Ber, So he's not willing to share you... but wants you to share him? lol This is getting slightly off topic, but I enjoy sharing him. I honestly would be down with us having a girlfriend. We just haven't found one yet. Our lifestyle decisions may not be typical or easier for most people to digest, but I am 100% happy and treated very well. |
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Post by mynameisfred on Nov 8, 2014 11:46:33 GMT -5
A lot of those aren't feminists to me, but horrible sadists. Like enjoying men getting physically hurt? *shudders* The only thing I have to say with some of those is that I hate when people say that women aren't allowed to object to male attention if they are wearing clothing that men might find attractive. Because are there really any clothes that no men find attractive? I see both sides to the coin. When women are dressed "slutty" (and yes, I understand that is subjective) I'm going to oogle. So will men. But typically a woman dressed like that wants to feel wanted or attractive and isn't going to object to being oogled, so long as it's done in a certain way...but that isn't anti feminism...that is just gross guys. i.e. I just wanted to tell you that you're very beautiful VS. DAYUMMM GIRL. Though I admit I have made the "oh my gawd" face on accident when a woman was wearing a very tight dress and had big fake bewbs, unintentionally. On the other side of the coin, I recall when I was younger switching from skirts to sweatpants and sweatshirts because I had perverted older men oogling me in front of my mom. I wore sweatpants for at least a whole month after that. Even in sweatpants I would occasionally have Hispanic men staring at me. It wasn't fun. So I do understand, but there is a big difference between a very attractive woman being in a tank top and jeans where I just so happen to notice her nice figure vs. a woman dressing in an intentionally low cut shirt and shorts so short I can see her ass. In the latter, I must think she wants some sort of validation. |
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Post by Kis on Nov 8, 2014 11:50:27 GMT -5
Ber, So he's not willing to share you... but wants you to share him? lol This is getting slightly off topic, but I enjoy sharing him. I honestly would be down with us having a girlfriend. We just haven't found one yet. Our lifestyle decisions may not be typical or easier for most people to digest, but I am 100% happy and treated very well. As long as it's something that makes you happy and you are treated well/ respectfully, that is ALL that matters. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was implying that I disagree with your choices; at first it seemed kind of unequal/ unfair, but I shouldn't have made assumptions. |
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Post by mynameisfred on Nov 8, 2014 12:09:01 GMT -5
This is getting slightly off topic, but I enjoy sharing him. I honestly would be down with us having a girlfriend. We just haven't found one yet. Our lifestyle decisions may not be typical or easier for most people to digest, but I am 100% happy and treated very well. As long as it's something that makes you happy and you are treated well/ respectfully, that is ALL that matters. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was implying that I disagree with your choices; at first it seemed kind of unequal/ unfair, but I shouldn't have made assumptions. Mmm, I wasn't offended or anything. I just wanted to be crystal clear that I am happy and consenting to my lifestyle choice with my husband. We enjoy how we live and if there was ever a case of any other woman being disrespectful to me he would call it quits with that woman immediately. There's honestly more to it, but that's more than I wish to share. We're just weird people. |
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